Learned helplessness and being saved
Posted: 15 June 2009 07:12 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Believing that you need a saviour, is a form of learned helplessnes, is it not?

Believing that you can’t live your life without “god” makes you both helpless and supposedly gives you a way out of that helplessness by making you believe that you need a saviour who has a plan for you.

But religion makes you helpless in the first place, so it’s a false solution to a non existant problem.

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Posted: 16 June 2009 05:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Airy Spirit - 15 June 2009 11:12 PM

Believing that you need a saviour, is a form of learned helplessnes, is it not?


I’d say over 90% of the time (as WAG).

Airy Spirit - 15 June 2009 11:12 PM

Believing that you can’t live your life without “god” makes you both helpless and supposedly gives you a way out of that helplessness by making you believe that you need a saviour who has a plan for you.

But religion makes you helpless in the first place, so it’s a false solution to a non existant problem.


Just like paying mob “protection” dues.

Yeah, Religion “saving” people and giving them hope is about like a crutch salesman cruising around crushing peoples’ kneecaps and being lavished with praise for providing such a needed service, only for the minimal cost of slave labor.

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Posted: 16 June 2009 06:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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‘Believing that you need a saviour, is a form of learned helplessnes, is it not?’

Yup. Religion and faith are all about dependence and helplessness. You must worship and you must submit.

Pretty sick if you ask me.

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Posted: 18 June 2009 06:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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It’s amazing that people are so willing to be described as sheep in need of a shepherd.

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