[quote author=“unsmoked”]Some have noticed that blue collar fundamentalists are voting for politicians who cater to their fundamentalist values, even though those politicians, once in power, favor the rich, and do little or nothing to improve the lot of their working class constituents.
Right, what’s the best way to point this out? I feel like when I do I get a resposnse like the fundmentalist values are the most important. How much do the middle class and poor have to lose before changing there minds about this stuff? I was watching the Western Tradition (ep. 29) and in the 30 years war we see it open with Catholics fighting Protestants. It ends basically with everybody fighting everybody and it ends because people really sick of fighting and difficult just to survive, higher moral virtues aside. I was watching the comedian, Carlos Mencia, and said something like, “It just goes to show how good we have in this country that people can complain about things like Clinton and Monica Lewinski [or perhaps better the vice president shooting his friend accidently] and these are taken seriously as issues. In what other countries would these be problems? Where I’m from, Honduras, and Central/Latin America in general, people have real problems to deal with, you know like just being able make a living.”
It bothers me because I don’t think Americans (people in the u.s.) are lazy. But what does it say when the Supreme Court decides the election? What does it say when in Venezuela the citizens can vote with electronic machines that can print a reciept but in the US were told our machines can’t do that? Is it that we are so comfortable and are afriad to give that up by rocking the boat or that we are so comfortable we don’t can’t beyond 2 feet in front us? something else?
Maybe I’m wrong and this is what most of the US wants but I doubt it. Or maybe we’ve always been like this I was a fool to think the US worked some way (ideally) that it never it did and elections have always been corrupt. It bothers me so much because with all of the debt we have right now, with our dependency on energy and the looming problems of not being able to afford energy when it isn’t cheap anymore, we are really spending our resources on the wrong problems right now. Iraq is a great example of digging a hole that we are throwing money and human lives in to with no reward. And like Sam says, whatever we need/or perhaps better want to fix/change in our country, we can’t even get to square one because of the religious beliefs.
Is religion not the biggest wedge? What else could be a factor here? Ah, I need to stop now a take some deep breaths…