[quote author=“Iisbliss”]Actually I didnt ask you what good religion HAS done for society, since I am willing to grant that at points in human development religion probably was necessary. I dont want to debate all the myriad issues of the past.
I am not asking you how Religion “benefits” society either.
I am asking you to examine the effects of religion on society in the current day and moving forward into the future, and in particular the effects of fundamentalist views, and I am asking you to examine this not just for the USA and christianity, but from a world view.
The claims people make regarding the good religion has done and does are all dependent upon the assumption that religion is the cause rather than a concurrent variable, and that’s highly debatable. The fact that what’s more uniquely associated with religion is generally rather nasty (i.e. we see humanists and freethinkers and secular groups and such doing good, however we don’t typically see lynchings and intense hatred and such independently from a religious framework) suggests religion doesn’t deserve the credit it gets. In fact I’d say when people try and advertise religion in this way it demonstrates another negative effect of religion—it gets credit for the good that we do, while the same mentality shields it from getting any credit at all for the bad.