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Posted: 09 August 2006 11:45 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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From The Chicago Sun-Times
Aug 9, 2006

"Starting in early September, every pharmacy in Illinois will be required to post signs saying that pharmacists must dispense prescribed contraceptives-including the so-called morning-after pill—-without delay.

Spearheaded by Gov. Blagojevich, the measure cleared its final legislative hurdle Tuesday.

It piggybacks onto a controversial order Blagojevich signed more than a year ago requiring pharmacies that sell contraceptives to distribute them.  Blagojevich signed the order amid reports that some pharmacists, citing their own moral objections, were lying to patients or simply refusing to dispense the morning-after pill because they feel the pill stops the life of an early human embryo.

The pharmacists, some of whom have challenged Blagojevich's rule in court, have said they believe that forcing them to fill such prescriptions violates their religious principles.

The signs, which will be placed at each of the roughly 2,700 pharmacies statewide beginning around Labor Day, informs patrons that if the pharmacy dispenses contraceptives, the pharmacist must distribute them without delay.

If the contraceptive is out of stock, the pharmacist and the patient's doctor can determine a suitable alternative.  Patients also can order the contraceptive for pickup later or have the prescription transferred to another pharmacy.

The sign also provides a toll-free phone number and a state web site so patrons can register complaints and find out more information". 


And I used to not like Gov. Blago!  Hooray Gov!

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Posted: 09 August 2006 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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The state forcing pharmacists to dispense baby-killing drugs is a travesty of justice. All who were involved in this dark law will have to answer to God one day.

Shame, as it were.

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Posted: 09 August 2006 01:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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That is very positive news, switch; good for the Gov!

Thing is, the pharmaceutical trade has involved the dispensing of birth control aids for nigh to 40 years, so there’s no excuse for even entering that field if you’re not intending to do your job.


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Posted: 09 August 2006 02:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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[quote author=“Mia”]That is very positive news, switch; good for the Gov!

Thing is, the pharmaceutical trade has involved the dispensing of birth control aids for nigh to 40 years, so there’s no excuse for even entering that field if you’re not intending to do your job.

Well, lets see how it goes when science has “the big breakthrough.” You know, the one where you harvest babies AFTER birth and then Hollywood movie stars and filthly rich mega-billionaries can put death at bay for a few years. Lets see the state mandate that doctors HAVE to perform the murder, err…..I mean, surgical procedure.

Moral of the story: when the Godless decide the morals, the morals are corrupt.

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Posted: 09 August 2006 02:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Why is it the state’s role to mandate what pharmacists do?  Are pharmacists state employees?

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Posted: 09 August 2006 02:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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[quote author=“TheChampion”]
Well, lets see how it goes when science has “the big breakthrough.” You know, the one where you harvest babies AFTER birth and then Hollywood movie stars and filthly rich mega-billionaries can put death at bay for a few years. Lets see the state mandate that doctors HAVE to perform the murder, err…..I mean, surgical procedure.

Moral of the story: when the Godless decide the morals, the morals are corrupt.


Ah. You’ve been watching The Island   on DVD again, I see.

Keep repeating to yourself, Champ, it was only a movie. And while we’re on it, so was Rosemary’s Baby and The Seventh Sign and a whole slew of others. Sheesh, we need a new ratings designation for the gullible.


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Posted: 09 August 2006 04:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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[quote author=“Mia”]Ah. You’ve been watching The Island   on DVD again, I see.

Keep repeating to yourself, Champ, it was only a movie. And while we’re on it, so was Rosemary’s Baby and The Seventh Sign and a whole slew of others. Sheesh, we need a new ratings designation for the gullible.
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Never saw it, should I?

(how are the heels…..yuk yuk)

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Posted: 09 August 2006 05:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Should doctors be forced to perform abortions since it is a medical procedure?

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Posted: 09 August 2006 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Should christian firemen be forced to save muslims in a burning mosque?

It’s idiotic to me to put religion before your profession. If the firemen follow the bible, they would just stand around singing psalms, thanking their Lord for this happy day.

If the pharmacists don’t want to sell the legal drugs, fine. Don’t work as a pharmacists then. Choose another profession that don’t conflict with your religion.

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Posted: 09 August 2006 07:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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[quote author=“Storm”]Should christian firemen be forced to save muslims in a burning mosque?

It’s idiotic to me to put religion before your profession. If the firemen follow the bible, they would just stand around singing psalms, thanking their Lord for this happy day.

If the pharmacists don’t want to sell the legal drugs, fine. Don’t work as a pharmacists then. Choose another profession that don’t conflict with your religion.

Why should the government tell a pharmacist what he must sell?  That’s tyranny.

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Posted: 09 August 2006 07:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Should christian firemen be forced to save muslims in a burning mosque?

Have you ever heard an objection from Christian firemen? I think not.

If the firemen follow the bible, they would just stand around singing psalms, thanking their Lord for this happy day.


Could you quote me scripture that confirms this statement?

Storm, can I put you down as agreeing that doctors should be forced to perform abortions?

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Posted: 09 August 2006 08:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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[quote author=“Humble Servant”]Have you ever heard an objection from Christian firemen? I think not.

I have not. I think this is because most firemen are brave and intelligent and do not put the bible before their profession


[quote author=“Humble Servant”]Could you quote me scripture that confirms this statement?

Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. 
Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded.  Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones, till they die”

Even though is says stones are more appropriate, the death part is pretty clear. Obviously this would be a time for celebration for the christians, ridding the world of wrong-believers, so I asumed psalms would be in order. There might of course be other forms of cheering. Perhaps a “Thank you God, for burning the whicked muslims and their sons and daughters into ash.”

[quote author=“Humble Servant”]Storm, can I put you down as agreeing that doctors should be forced to perform abortions?

No you may not. No doctor should be forced to perform any operation, be it abortion, plastic surgery or a heart transplant. If they feels forced, they should change workplace or quit being a doctor. If you have signed up to be a doctor, be a doctor.
As an example, if a military refuses to shoot his gun, he’s either kicked out of the force or sent to prison.

Have to go to work now and refuse to do my duties. Cya! :D

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Posted: 09 August 2006 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Storm,
We are to pray for them and of course save them if we can, not let them burn. If we did, we would be like the Priest or the Levite that passed by the man who was beaten on the road in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

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Posted: 10 August 2006 12:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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[quote author=“Humble Servant”]Mia
Should doctors be forced to perform abortions since it is a medical procedure?

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[quote author=“Humble Servant”]Storm, can I put you down as agreeing that doctors should be forced to perform abortions?

No you may not. No doctor should be forced to perform any operation, be it abortion, plastic surgery or a heart transplant. If they feels forced, they should change workplace or quit being a doctor. If you have signed up to be a doctor, be a doctor.

As an example, if a military refuses to shoot his gun, he’s either kicked out of the force or sent to prison.


I agree with Storm. You don’t go in to see a dermatologist and then ask for a liver transplant. Or a nose job from your OB. Doctors choose their specialties, and there are obviously many who choose to include abortion in their list of offered procedures. I can’t really blame them for not being as enthusiastic about doing their job in light of Christian terrorism and murders of clinic doctors, however.


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Posted: 10 August 2006 12:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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[quote author=“mudfoot”]Why is it the state’s role to mandate what pharmacists do?  Are pharmacists state employees?


Other than it being the primary avenue by which most women acquire their pills and patches, I agree with you. In fact I wish all birth control was simply available out on the shelf, as are any number of other meds that may or may not be perfectly healthy for you, yet are legal to buy without prescription. I can buy ten bottles of rum, but I can’t just go into a store and decide to buy birth control pills without a doctor telling me I’m allowed to? Seems bizarre.

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Posted: 10 August 2006 01:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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I agree with Storm. You don’t go in to see a dermatologist and then ask for a liver transplant. Or a nose job from your OB. Doctors choose their specialties, and there are obviously many who choose to include abortion in their list of offered procedures.

I am shocked that you don’t agree with me Mia, what has the world come to. I am not a doctor, nor have I played one on TV, and I am not an authority, but I believe that the instance could come up in a hospital or ER with an intern. To the best of my knowledge, all doctors everywhere are not specialists.

I can’t really blame them for not being as enthusiastic about doing their job in light of Christian terrorism and murders of clinic doctors, however.

How true. Since 1977 in both the U.S and Canada 7 abortion clinic workers have been killed with another 17 murder attempts. But it seems that the “doctors” are much more prolific with over 40,000,000 killed. That’s not including the mothers who drown, hack, and smother their children (which by the way is more than 7 per year). This is not to excuse the idiots who perpetrated the acts of violence against the clinic workers, they deserve whatever punishment the govt. gave them and more.

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