[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”] First of all JGL, I never said it was “okay” to murder another human…
Yes you did. You said if there is no god then it is “okay” to murder.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”]…You didn’t develop a sense of moral justice from the Darwinian theory, and I do say THEORY…
No, I developed my sense of morality from my proper socialization as a child, plus the fact that I have a normal brain – this applies to most people, as I am not anything special here. And there is no god needed for the process.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”] As far as your question about what I would do without God. I can’t answer that exactly, but I would definitely say that it is distinctly possible that I would be a murderer or a rapist. I cannot say for sure that I wouldn’t do those things. Now that would be arrogant…
No, I think your statements here are sick and disturbed – not ad homineming you, just telling you what your statements obvious mean in terms of your moral and mental health.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”]…Something that is chaotic does not, and never will, produce order. Something this is immoral, and all of us are immoral and sinful, does not produce something that is moral.
Neither conclusion follows from the premises, nor did you offer any evidence that it does, just asserted your opinion, which doesn’t even make any sense whatsoever.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”]…Society cannot survive on atheism. We start turning atheism into mysticism, angel worship, palm readers, etc etc, which is a way of us “inventing” new religion. We are not and never will be inherently “atheistic.” You have to be educated to be an atheist. Thats why you don’t find mentally challenged atheists, unless they have been brainwashed into thinking that way.
That is your unsubstantiated opinion again – and, again, it doesn’t even make a shred of sense. Why do you keep posting nonsense like thist – who do you think you are impressing?
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”] Thats why Hellen Keller, when asked about God, responded, “I always knew He was there, I just didn’t know His name.” We are talking about a person that hadn’t seen the world, heard anything in it or been able to discern anything that requires the ability to see or hear or speak.
Helen Keller was a product of her environment. Did she discover god on her own? No, someone inculcated her with the idea. Had she been raised by Aryan Nation types, she probably would have turned out a disgusting racist – being in a position wherein it would have been very difficult for her to go against her keepers.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”]… I am not arrogant about my worship of my Creator. I hope that I am truly humble in that. We are here to serve, and Christianity has done pretty well when you find the fundamental group that holds to the inerrancy of the spoken Word of God…
Again, your unsubstantiated opinion that is useless to me.
[quote author=“nothingbutthebloodofjesus”]…You can bring up all the examples that you want about the extremist idiots that claim God’s name in the murder and terrorism that happens today. But you cannot say that religion is therefore more harmful than good in a society and that we should eliminate it. Sorry man, that will never ever happen. In fact, it is an impossibility…
Nice try – but changing the subject is not a ploy that will work. I never said ANYTHING about eliminating religion from society – my previous post just made the point that there is no proven correlation or necessary connection to date with religion/irreligion and moral/immoral behavior.
I think I’ll stop here. And I think I’ll stop wasting my time with you. I think we both know where the other stands. I perceive that you do not wish to have a rational discussion; you just want to “win” the debate for your god, no matter what, and just proselytize all the poor lost atheists here. You obviously have NO ability to actually listen to what others are saying, being obviously so wrapped up in your god and bathing in his blood and promoting him that you might as well be deaf. .
I’ll leave you to the others here from now on. And Good luck winning souls for Christ here on an atheist forum.