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Chris Hedges slams the ‘new atheists’
Posted: 04 May 2008 01:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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Hi Linda,
I didnt find it because the person that posted it was not smart enough to put some decent tags on it.
Anyway, here it is:
Chris Hedges - Interview w/Salon

Foreign correspondent and intellectual provocateur Chris Hedges explains why New Atheists like Christopher Hitchens are as dangerous as Christian fundamentalists.

pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuKbOXjD8Q
pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPb9pC8rm4k
pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQv0CGPkI7A
pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgdQqIADx0

The passage that enraged me so much is in pt.2 around 5.46, I ceased than to listen to the rest. If you have the time to listen to it all and to tell us if his point makes sense please do so!

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Posted: 04 May 2008 08:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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Mel Olontha - 04 May 2008 05:40 PM

Hi Linda,
I didnt find it because the person that posted it was not smart enough to put some decent tags on it.
Anyway, here it is:
Chris Hedges - Interview w/Salon

Foreign correspondent and intellectual provocateur Chris Hedges explains why New Atheists like Christopher Hitchens are as dangerous as Christian fundamentalists.

pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuKbOXjD8Q
pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPb9pC8rm4k
pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQv0CGPkI7A
pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgdQqIADx0

The passage that enraged me so much is in pt.2 around 5.46, I ceased than to listen to the rest. If you have the time to listen to it all and to tell us if his point makes sense please do so!

Thanks for the post Mel O. I think Hedges has gone over the edge. He takes the idea of a straw man argument to extremes. He seems to be seeing ghosts. He did an interview with Thom Hartmann that made me gag. Hartmann also did an interview with Sam Harris in which he took up all the time painting Harris with Hedges brush and then not giving Sam any time to respond. Hartmann and Hedges come across across as radical moderates. It’s very strange, all the words they put in Harris’s mouth.

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Posted: 05 May 2008 11:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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Mel Olontha - 04 May 2008 05:40 PM

Hi Linda,
I didnt find it because the person that posted it was not smart enough to put some decent tags on it.
Anyway, here it is:
Chris Hedges - Interview w/Salon

Foreign correspondent and intellectual provocateur Chris Hedges explains why New Atheists like Christopher Hitchens are as dangerous as Christian fundamentalists.

pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuKbOXjD8Q
pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPb9pC8rm4k
pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQv0CGPkI7A
pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgdQqIADx0

The passage that enraged me so much is in pt.2 around 5.46, I ceased than to listen to the rest. If you have the time to listen to it all and to tell us if his point makes sense please do so!

Thank you very much. I plan to listen to it later this week.

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Posted: 06 May 2008 05:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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Thanks for the post Mel O. I think Hedges has gone over the edge. He takes the idea of a straw man argument to extremes. He seems to be seeing ghosts. He did an interview with Thom Hartmann that made me gag. Hartmann also did an interview with Sam Harris in which he took up all the time painting Harris with Hedges brush and then not giving Sam any time to respond. Hartmann and Hedges come across across as radical moderates. It’s very strange, all the words they put in Harris’s mouth.

Your welcome, friend! However, I don’t think he sees ghosts, to be honest I more and more think: “Though this be madness, yet there is method in’t.”
Large parts of the humanities don’t teach based on humanism and logic anymore, but rather somekind of sophistry. In this scholarship without ethics the one succeds who is loud and obscure as well as most ruthless in sticking nasty lables on the opponent. They usually apear on the side of the self-righteous vox populi, because those are usually not critical enough to look for flaws in their own argumentation.

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Posted: 06 May 2008 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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Mel Olontha - 06 May 2008 09:39 AM

Thanks for the post Mel O. I think Hedges has gone over the edge. He takes the idea of a straw man argument to extremes. He seems to be seeing ghosts. He did an interview with Thom Hartmann that made me gag. Hartmann also did an interview with Sam Harris in which he took up all the time painting Harris with Hedges brush and then not giving Sam any time to respond. Hartmann and Hedges come across across as radical moderates. It’s very strange, all the words they put in Harris’s mouth.

Your welcome, friend! However, I don’t think he sees ghosts, to be honest I more and more think: “Though this be madness, yet there is method in’t.”
Large parts of the humanities don’t teach based on humanism and logic anymore, but rather somekind of sophistry. In this scholarship without ethics the one succeds who is loud and obscure as well as most ruthless in sticking nasty lables on the opponent. They usually apear on the side of the self-righteous vox populi, because those are usually not critical enough to look for flaws in their own argumentation.

It’s strange, in every interview with Hedges on this subject, he first says that he never read Harris books because he isn’t attracted to something so “intellectually shallow”, then he says that he had to read the books to debate him, and then he says that he didn’t or couldn’t finish. All he does is stuff words in Harris’s mouth.

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Posted: 09 May 2008 05:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Mel Olontha - 04 May 2008 05:40 PM

Hi Linda,
I didnt find it because the person that posted it was not smart enough to put some decent tags on it.
Anyway, here it is:
Chris Hedges - Interview w/Salon

Foreign correspondent and intellectual provocateur Chris Hedges explains why New Atheists like Christopher Hitchens are as dangerous as Christian fundamentalists.

pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFuKbOXjD8Q
pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPb9pC8rm4k
pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQv0CGPkI7A
pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgdQqIADx0

The passage that enraged me so much is in pt.2 around 5.46, I ceased than to listen to the rest. If you have the time to listen to it all and to tell us if his point makes sense please do so!

Sam Harris has a Neo-con agenda?
Sam Harris supports the preemptive war in Iraq?

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