Sam Harris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9dTMnKltg&feature=youtu.be

I’d be really interested in people’s response to this non-sense.

deanie - 08 September 2012 12:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9dTMnKltg&feature=youtu.be

I’d be really interested in people’s response to this non-sense.

I think that here is man who can see through the lunacy of biblical thinking but slips into another delusional quagmire by exposing his political liberalism.

deanie - 08 September 2012 12:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9dTMnKltg&feature=youtu.be

I’d be really interested in people’s response to this non-sense.

Can you be a little more vague?  To which nonsense are you referring?

Skipshot - 08 September 2012 03:37 PM

deanie - 08 September 2012 12:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9dTMnKltg&feature=youtu.be

I’d be really interested in people’s response to this non-sense.

Can you be a little more vague?  To which nonsense are you referring?

The nonsense that it is fundamentalists that make people become atheists.

I loved the video.  Thanks for posting.

deanie - 08 September 2012 04:44 PM

Skipshot - 08 September 2012 03:37 PM

deanie - 08 September 2012 12:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9dTMnKltg&feature=youtu.be

I’d be really interested in people’s response to this non-sense.

Can you be a little more vague?  To which nonsense are you referring?

The nonsense that it is fundamentalists that make people become atheists.

Well…..........it’s meat that makes vegetarians.

:-0

I would like to address two points the theistic liberal made in the posted video.

1. Jesus spoke in parable and metaphor and gave liberal teachings.  Let me offer a direct quote of Jesus as relayed to us by Matthew 5:17-19:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus, therefore, explicitly and strongly endorses the whole of the Old Testament in very plain language.  We need not interpret any metaphor here. 

2. He has no problem with teaching creationism in biology so long as evolution is taught in Bible study.  He’d like that wouldn’t he?  Notice how quickly he blows through this point hoping we won’t see how far it is from being a reasonable compromise.This guy is trying to sell himself and Jesus as moderate liberals, when both are subversive anti-intellectuals seeking only to expand their flock by any means necessary.

TheCoolinator - 08 September 2012 07:22 PM

I would like to address two points the theistic liberal made in the posted video.

1. Jesus spoke in parable and metaphor and gave liberal teachings.  Let me offer a direct quote of Jesus as relayed to us by Matthew 5:17-19:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus, therefore, explicitly and strongly endorses the whole of the Old Testament in very plain language.  We need not interpret any metaphor here. 

2. He has no problem with teaching creationism in biology so long as evolution is taught in Bible study.  He’d like that wouldn’t he?  Notice how quickly he blows through this point hoping we won’t see how far it is from being a reasonable compromise.This guy is trying to sell himself and Jesus as moderate liberals, when both are subversive anti-intellectuals seeking only to expand their flock by any means necessary.

Jesus can be a role model for liberals and conservatives.
He can be just about anything you want.

I basically liked this video up until the very last sentence.

I didn’t become an atheist because of fundies. I became one because the whole thing makes ZERO sense.

I liked it though because it is a start. It is a drop in a growing bucket of water that will soon be full and can then be thrown on the heads of the theists. (how’s that for a metaphor?)