Goings-on in Dover PA and in Kansas school boards get us all excited. What is the fire that warms us? Is it the same for us as Pat Robertson, if the other side of the pyre? One hopes that the folks in Dover take some pride in our Pat calling down tornadoes on them, one wonders what the Kansans would say if they get bad weather in PA this week.
Schools are the cock pit of belief system salespeople. We are ignorant because our schools fail us, we fail our schools because we are wot we are. I got a wee bit of evolution in undergrad geology but am now amazed that my engineer workmates, even microbiologists, seem to have had none, and that they are able to think that evolution is a hypothesis (the way gravity is because we do not know all there is about how it fits in?). Perhaps I became an atheist and fan of Dawkins, Dennett, Sagan, Weinberg because I am a social misfit. My christian “scientists” (including Mormon geologists) chose community, one might say rudely “clustering in the flock”, over radioisotopes, although they can talk about the latter in a compartment.
It is silly to expect our schools are going to save us by teaching evolution anytime soon. The broth of god, the howling packs, the bonfires, if we succeeded in getting ID out and evolution in in every high school. A threatened religion is a womb of martyrs.
If we could only get a high school civics curriculum worth its weight in paper.
:D founding fathers, why they did it
:D consitution, bill of rights
:D justice is conflict (yep that’s Stuart Hampshire; there is no justice in a “harmonious” religious society, there is only conformity, enforced; justice is the way we resolve inevitable differences)
:D legacy in Tho Paine, Lincoln, King, ...
:( Salem, slavery, John Brown, Scopes,
:? the draft…
:D civics and technology: how we have changed with vaccinations, cars and planes
:( compare with catholic S America (same resources except rationality & the burden of imperial popery), China (feudal freeze until current explosion controlled by communist religion)
I bet I could teach that in the heart of Kansas without getting burning crosses on the lawn, and erode the clustering faith faster than teaching evolution. Although I find the latter much more appealing (Dawkins’ Ancestors is a much cooler book than anything on government; by the way, if you are thinking about getting this, get the superior UK version from amazon.uk).
Because cultivation of civic responsibility I think is probably an easier sell to the nation we are, and maybe more necessary to our survival, than science (the importance a worthy topic of discussion in a civics class, of course), in this dark age.
But of course mostly we atheists are scientists, so we scream our way is the fundamentalister, youse all are ingorant, by golly we sound (I do) like religionists of another color a lot of the time.