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Questions for all the Theists

 
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17 April 2017 18:45
 
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:55 PM
jdrnd - 17 April 2017 05:44 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:40 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 05:24 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:17 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 04:24 PM

Where two or three Episcopalians are gathered, there’s a fifth.  (Ha, ha, those crazy Episcopalians!)

???

A “fifth"is a name for a bottle of booze.  1/5 of a gallon.

Haha ... thanks.  (I hate it when I don’t get a joke.)  wink

I didn’t get it either.

If you ever decide you want to try being Catholic, I have a great Catholic joke.

Caatholiic,
Yech!


On second thought

Okay I’m game
tell me things I can say so I can pass as a catholic.

 
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17 April 2017 18:56
 
jdrnd - 17 April 2017 06:45 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:55 PM
jdrnd - 17 April 2017 05:44 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:40 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 05:24 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:17 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 04:24 PM

Where two or three Episcopalians are gathered, there’s a fifth.  (Ha, ha, those crazy Episcopalians!)

???

A “fifth"is a name for a bottle of booze.  1/5 of a gallon.

Haha ... thanks.  (I hate it when I don’t get a joke.)  wink

I didn’t get it either.

If you ever decide you want to try being Catholic, I have a great Catholic joke.

Caatholiic,
Yech!

On second thought

Okay I’m game
tell me things I can say so I can pass as a catholic.

I agree - yech.  Sorry ... I don’t know what to say to pass as a Catholic (I’ve never been one).  They ‘cross’ themselves a lot, but that won’t help here.  I only had a joke, is all.

A man dies and knocks on the door of heaven.  The door opens and an angel welcomes him in and takes him on a tour of the place.
The newcomer is very pleased with what he sees, but he is intrigued by a very high wall which seems to divide heaven in two.
He asks the angel, “Is hell beyond that wall?”
The angel smiles and says “No, no, beyond that wall are the Catholics; they believe they are the only ones here and we don’t want to disappoint them.”

[ Edited: 17 April 2017 19:01 by Jan_CAN]
 
 
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17 April 2017 19:28
 
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 06:56 PM
jdrnd - 17 April 2017 06:45 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:55 PM
jdrnd - 17 April 2017 05:44 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:40 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 05:24 PM
Jan_CAN - 17 April 2017 05:17 PM
EN - 17 April 2017 04:24 PM

Where two or three Episcopalians are gathered, there’s a fifth.  (Ha, ha, those crazy Episcopalians!)

???

A “fifth"is a name for a bottle of booze.  1/5 of a gallon.

Haha ... thanks.  (I hate it when I don’t get a joke.)  wink

I didn’t get it either.

If you ever decide you want to try being Catholic, I have a great Catholic joke.

Caatholiic,
Yech!

On second thought

Okay I’m game
tell me things I can say so I can pass as a catholic.

I agree - yech.  Sorry ... I don’t know what to say to pass as a Catholic (I’ve never been one).  They ‘cross’ themselves a lot, but that won’t help here.  I only had a joke, is all.

A man dies and knocks on the door of heaven.  The door opens and an angel welcomes him in and takes him on a tour of the place.
The newcomer is very pleased with what he sees, but he is intrigued by a very high wall which seems to divide heaven in two.
He asks the angel, “Is hell beyond that wall?”
The angel smiles and says “No, no, beyond that wall are the Catholics; they believe they are the only ones here and we don’t want to disappoint them.”

Nice.

 
uno
 
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uno
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22 September 2017 09:55
 
EN - 02 April 2017 07:48 PM
GAD - 02 April 2017 03:41 PM

* no disclaimers required or wanted

From your beliefs, experiences and perspective;

Is your god the only god? Yes|No

Did your god create us? Yes|No

Are we bound by your god’s laws? Yes|No

There is one God, I believe. But I don’t claim to fully understand God, so my belief is not a complete reflection of God.

The one God is responsible for all that exists.

The laws of the one God that are indisputable are the laws of nature.  You are bound by those.  I believe that faith and love are also laws.  Only you can answer whether you are bound by those.

Why aren’t the laws of nature and physics enough to replace the god(s?) of religion? Nothing known to exist has provided evidence of being exempt from them.

 
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22 September 2017 11:46
 

I would rather ask why we are the only living beings capable of control our instincts as well as being the only ones that developed rational thinking.
I believe that we are born with a very characteristical human nature of feeling love and having good faith. On the other hand, I reckon that human greed for power and the urge for having control over the others are behaviours acquired during our lives, such behaviours at some point can conflict with our very inner characteristics that we are born with and which are governed by our human species natural laws.
So, the point I’m trying to make here is: for the reasons I stated above, we created a sense of “God” as one possible explanation to the purpose of our existence as such a unique living beings on Earth (in the case one reckons there’s a reason for that).

 
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22 September 2017 13:00
 
uno - 22 September 2017 09:55 AM
EN - 02 April 2017 07:48 PM
GAD - 02 April 2017 03:41 PM

* no disclaimers required or wanted

From your beliefs, experiences and perspective;

Is your god the only god? Yes|No

Did your god create us? Yes|No

Are we bound by your god’s laws? Yes|No

There is one God, I believe. But I don’t claim to fully understand God, so my belief is not a complete reflection of God.

The one God is responsible for all that exists.

The laws of the one God that are indisputable are the laws of nature.  You are bound by those.  I believe that faith and love are also laws.  Only you can answer whether you are bound by those.

Why aren’t the laws of nature and physics enough to replace the god(s?) of religion? Nothing known to exist has provided evidence of being exempt from them.

I suppose that a broad enough concept of “the laws of nature” could include God himself.  bbearden on this forum defines God as something like nature to its fullest extent, I think.  Personally, I like to maintain a distinction between the two as that agrees more with my personal experience of God as a metaphysical being, sort of a super-Person with consciousness and will.  But that’s just me.

 
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22 September 2017 15:21
 
EN - 22 September 2017 01:00 PM
uno - 22 September 2017 09:55 AM
EN - 02 April 2017 07:48 PM
GAD - 02 April 2017 03:41 PM

* no disclaimers required or wanted

From your beliefs, experiences and perspective;

Is your god the only god? Yes|No

Did your god create us? Yes|No

Are we bound by your god’s laws? Yes|No

There is one God, I believe. But I don’t claim to fully understand God, so my belief is not a complete reflection of God.

The one God is responsible for all that exists.

The laws of the one God that are indisputable are the laws of nature.  You are bound by those.  I believe that faith and love are also laws.  Only you can answer whether you are bound by those.

Why aren’t the laws of nature and physics enough to replace the god(s?) of religion? Nothing known to exist has provided evidence of being exempt from them.

I suppose that a broad enough concept of “the laws of nature” could include God himself.  bbearden on this forum defines God as something like nature to its fullest extent, I think.  Personally, I like to maintain a distinction between the two as that agrees more with my personal experience of God as a metaphysical being, sort of a super-Person with consciousness and will.  But that’s just me.

We disagree fundamentally. For me god is the laws of nature and physics; laws which are at least as powerful and wondrous as those of the God(s) of religion but a lot less simple and not centered on anthropocentric principles.

Richard Dawkins understands this, but as it is peripheral to his agenda, only mentioned it in passing from 26:48 to 27:44 in this YouTube TED talks video on militant atheism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A

 

 

[ Edited: 22 September 2017 19:55 by uno]
 
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23 September 2017 05:35
 
uno - 22 September 2017 03:21 PM
EN - 22 September 2017 01:00 PM
uno - 22 September 2017 09:55 AM
EN - 02 April 2017 07:48 PM
GAD - 02 April 2017 03:41 PM

* no disclaimers required or wanted

From your beliefs, experiences and perspective;

Is your god the only god? Yes|No

Did your god create us? Yes|No

Are we bound by your god’s laws? Yes|No

There is one God, I believe. But I don’t claim to fully understand God, so my belief is not a complete reflection of God.

The one God is responsible for all that exists.

The laws of the one God that are indisputable are the laws of nature.  You are bound by those.  I believe that faith and love are also laws.  Only you can answer whether you are bound by those.

Why aren’t the laws of nature and physics enough to replace the god(s?) of religion? Nothing known to exist has provided evidence of being exempt from them.

I suppose that a broad enough concept of “the laws of nature” could include God himself.  bbearden on this forum defines God as something like nature to its fullest extent, I think.  Personally, I like to maintain a distinction between the two as that agrees more with my personal experience of God as a metaphysical being, sort of a super-Person with consciousness and will.  But that’s just me.

We disagree fundamentally. For me god is the laws of nature and physics; laws which are at least as powerful and wondrous as those of the God(s) of religion but a lot less simple and not centered on anthropocentric principles.

Richard Dawkins understands this, but as it is peripheral to his agenda, only mentioned it in passing from 26:48 to 27:44 in this YouTube TED talks video on militant atheism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A

 

 

Yes, I agree that we disagree fundamentally.

 
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23 September 2017 08:35
 
EN - 22 September 2017 01:00 PM

bbearden

???

 
 
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23 September 2017 14:33
 
bbearren - 23 September 2017 08:35 AM
EN - 22 September 2017 01:00 PM

bbearden

???

Sorry, misspelled it. My bad.

 
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24 September 2017 19:29
 
EN - 23 September 2017 02:33 PM
bbearren - 23 September 2017 08:35 AM
EN - 22 September 2017 01:00 PM

bbearden

???

Sorry, misspelled it. My bad.

I believe bbearden is bbearren’s hipster twin brother.

 
 
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