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26 July 2009 11:35
 

Did anyone see the Michael Savage clip on PBS Bill Moyers Journal last Friday?  Today, would Hitler be allowed to rant like M. Savage on U.S. talk radio if he used the word ‘liberal’ instead of the word ‘Jew’?  Did I hear correctly that these ‘commentators’ have 8 million regular listeners? 

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2009/07/fear_and_loathing_in_political.html

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http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Jocks-Americas-Progressive-Alternatives/dp/0975272438

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unsmoked - 26 July 2009 03:35 PM

Did I hear correctly that these ‘commentators’ have 8 million regular listeners?

Thanks, smokey ... (I think). What’s shocking is the market for it. Even those who don’t consider themselves religio-political extremists or aren’t regular listeners don’t understand their contribution to this kind of hateful, destructive and intolerant form of thought, since they basically align themselves with it. They can never claim the higher moral ground because there is no semblance of higher-order thinking in the process; just listening to it and believing it disqualifies one for that. How they can think it’s defensible proves their lack of reason. Wingnuts & Fuckwits, they’re everywhere like in an old science-fiction horror movie. Scary.

 
 
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26 July 2009 20:32
 

Hate Talk Radio - Blame powerless minorities!

 
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27 July 2009 12:58
 

I don’t know, teuchter. An opportunity like that staring you in the face seems rarer and rarer these days. People are either happy or not, independent of whether or not they need to do menial shit into their old age. (I’m sure I will if I last that long.) I tend to assume that most everyone I come into contact with are reasonably happy, or they’d be elsewhere right now, such as attempting gradual suicide by using debilitating levels of alcohol or drug-of-choice.

 
 
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27 July 2009 13:45
 

I think, teuchter, you thought about it too much.  A simple, “Turn that shit off,” would be enough for me.  I did it to my dad after getting in his car a couple times, as he’s a Dittohead, and he’s considerate enough to not insult his passengers as they are trapped in the car.

I do the same with my passengers unless they like three-chord-punk-rock á la The Ramones and Social Distortion.

 
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unknown zone - 27 July 2009 04:58 PM

I tend to assume that most everyone I come into contact with are reasonably happy, or they’d be elsewhere right now, such as attempting gradual suicide by using debilitating levels of alcohol or drug-of-choice.

I’ve seen travel programs and news reports lately that lead me to suspect that the general public in Iran might be happier than they are in the U.S.  Is that why the shock jocks want to bomb them?

This morning I saw an Allstate (‘You’re in good hands’) ad reporting that in 2007 teen drivers killed more than 3000 people in other vehicles.  This caused me to wonder if the roads in the U.S. are more dangerous than the roads in Iraq.  In 2007, besides the teen mayhem, there were about 38,000 other traffic fatalities, 15,387 of them alcohol related.  (speaking of debilitating levels of alcohol)

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

 
 
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27 July 2009 14:25
 

An old colleague of mine loved to listen to Limbaugh and Savage.
I really liked the guy and he knew I was a lefty yet we still got along just fine, and he was even able to see my side of things and consider some new arguments.

One thing that always stuck with me was something he said when we met for a round of joint sales calls one morning. As he was exiting his car he told me that he’d been listening to Rush during his morning commute and that he felt really good and ‘pumped up’.

Since my colleague also enjoyed large amounts of chewing tobacco, which I have been told gives a very strong nicotine rush, I couldn’t help but make the connection between these two highs he liked to experience.

 
 
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teuchter - 27 July 2009 04:41 PM

Since I was forcibly evicted from the “Pushing Air” thread because of what some may suspect is a cultist-like attention to B. Dylan’s lyrics,

Just for the record, I have nothing against Dylan’s lyrics, but as the owner of a set of functioning eardrums I think I speak for all civilized and decent bipedal primates when I say that hearing this man’s voice is the auditory equivalent of having sex with Rosie O’Donnell.

 
 
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Bad Rabbit - 27 July 2009 06:30 PM
teuchter - 27 July 2009 04:41 PM

Since I was forcibly evicted from the “Pushing Air” thread because of what some may suspect is a cultist-like attention to B. Dylan’s lyrics,

Just for the record, I have nothing against Dylan’s lyrics, but as the owner of a set of functioning eardrums I think I speak for all civilized and decent bipedal primates when I say that hearing this man’s voice is the auditory equivalent of having sex with Rosie O’Donnell.

Or dinner with Oprah and Traces Elk.

 
 
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teuchter - 27 July 2009 06:44 PM

And, by the way, I think Dylan often has an amazingly beautiful voice;  listen again to Ramona or to Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands.

Let’s not forget the Big Brass Bed thing.

 
 
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27 July 2009 19:30
 

Thanks, smokey ... (I think). What’s shocking is the market for it. Even those who don’t consider themselves religio-political extremists or aren’t regular listeners don’t understand their contribution to this kind of hateful, destructive and intolerant form of thought, since they basically align themselves with it. They can never claim the higher moral ground because there is no semblance of higher-order thinking in the process; just listening to it and believing it disqualifies one for that. How they can think it’s defensible proves their lack of reason. Wingnuts & Fuckwits, they’re everywhere like in an old science-fiction horror movie. Scary.

Does anyone else see the irony/hypocrisy in this post?

 
 
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28 July 2009 06:29
 
clayforHim648 - 27 July 2009 11:30 PM

Even those who don’t consider themselves religio-political extremists or aren’t regular listeners don’t understand their contribution to this kind of hateful, destructive and intolerant form of thought, since they basically align themselves with it…..Wingnuts & Fuckwits, they’re everywhere like in an old science-fiction horror movie. Scary.

Does anyone else see the irony/hypocrisy in this post?

I see it, Clay.

 
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28 July 2009 07:55
 

I see it, Clay.

OK thanks, just needed a reality check there.

 
 
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28 July 2009 10:31
 
clayforHim648 - 28 July 2009 11:55 AM

OK thanks, just needed a reality check there.

Irony…...too much…............must…make…..joke…


Not just there, mon frere.

 
 
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teuchter - 27 July 2009 05:28 PM

What are you suggesting?  Has Bruce Burleson been talking about me?

I didn’t know you and Burleson had met. He does get around, doesn’t he? But I haven’t spoken to him since Spring of ‘08. I was only suggesting that if a person is well enough to be schlepping people around for a living, then he must be feeling well enough to be willing to take care of all the things a person needs to do to avoid assuming room temperature. I guess my memories of pre-atheist depression remain strong enough to warp my take on the world at times. If you’ve survived as long as you have, teuchter, I’d guess that your use of alcohol, tobacco, etc. has only assisted in your well-being.

 
 
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25 August 2009 13:45
 

Speaking again of shock jocks.  Check out the biographical article in the August 3, 2009 ‘The New Yorker’ magazine - PARTY OF ONE - Michael Savage, unexpurgated by Kelefa Sanneh.