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22 March 2005 06:09
 

While I will not argue with you, Iisbliss regarding the my motivations having alot to do with anger I only wish we were all more angry. I atleast like to believe that everything in existence can be either positive,negative or “grey”. I am no occultist BUT I have found SOME ideas in the “esoteric realms” to be,if nothing else common sense(i’ll probably get blasted for this but please understand the context here). Any magician worth his weight in tarot cards will make the claim that there is no such thing as white,black or grey magick. There is just “magick” and it’s “color” is determined solely by the operator intentions,moods,karma and all of that dubious stuff. Again I will say only that there APPEARS to be a certain logic here and it dovetails relatively well with “anger-based” motivations.  While I am hardly naive enough to think that my anger is going to change the negative actions of one person and the idea that everyone will rise up and get angry enough to change “hearts and minds” is a laughable pipe dream. Even if it was not a pipe dream all the anger in the world On IT’S OWN would probably change little. What then, are the alternatives must we just live apathetically with these cretins and allow the “true believers” of all stripes to destroy the world as they are clearly doing?I think the time has come for plain speaking. I cannot see anyway this is all going to change EXCEPT BY THE USE OF FORCE. That is the only thing the osamas,hitlers and farwells will understand and the only thing thing that defeats them. Please understand that such force must be applied only to those who would thwart our rights. I don’t think self-preservation is the only justified reason to use force. Before you label me,the american colonists could have survived physically under the yoke of the England. Many who fought against oppressive regimes could have survived physically,but they choose to use force against the bullies and often have truimphed. If I am wrong then,so are the american colonists,“pure aryan” germans who used force against nazis and many others. If you think the christians are a far cry from the aforementioned oppresors, your right. I think you may want to consider this is just for want of opportunity. If the past four years or so has not proven that their opportunities are on the increase in a frightening way then nothing will. Christians are just the tip of the iceberg and probably not,by themselves even close to the most destructive “true believers” They are in cahoots with those who are though (read thomas Frank’s “what’s the matter with Kansas for ample evidence for this “axis of evil’ between predatory capitalists and right-wing christians). If you think this is just a political bias on my part,sorry I “truly believe” your all wet only because the evidence to support this is quite sufficient. I have been to Columbia and seen, first hand the “ecocide” that america’s “war on drugs” farce is causing in that country. “WE” are destroying some of the richest bio-diversity on the planet and i’m sure you understand the horrifying ramifications there. Columbia is once again,the tip of the iceberg and I have witnessed far more than this,not to mention the countless eye-witness accounts I have read and otherwise found about. My friend, “darkness HAS come and there will be no dawn”. I think there is only one slight hope and we can get squeamish about it or ostrich-ignore it only to our and earth’s peril. On a lighter note,I know Dennis Miller is a sacred figure among many of our brainy folk in this culture,but I never liked him or his pseudo-intellectual brand of comedy so the right can have him. I would like to continue because I never feel I am understood clearly (according to numerology,this is a common trait among “number sevens”,which I am). I know the artillery barrage for that one could be thunderous but again,perspective and context. Anyway, time to get back to earning my daily bread and feeling guilty about all the ways I am contributing to the forces of darkness,more later.

 
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22 March 2005 09:47
 

Gman, you are well within your rights to call my posts tirades. Your are not only well within your rights, but probably ARE right atleast in some substantial respects. I assume you do not wish to hear more and if I am that irrational IYO, then you need not read futher. I have no problem with admitting my own irrationality,is there such a thing as an absolutely rational human being? 

  You may want to ask yourself what the ramifications of some people’s flawed rationality may be as opposed to others. If my “weltanschauung” (actually this would be a misinterpretation on your part,since I do not claim to have such a thing)is troubling to you, I think then my meaning has eluded you.For this, I hold you blameless,call me stupid but I often find it difficult to articulate my ideas as clearly as I would prefer. I did state this in my last post and yes,I have serious doubts this has anything to do with numerology!


  All I can say is that many of us in the modern world have,what I consider to be, sound reason to be greatly troubled. If you do not feel my reasons are sound then you and I are going to disagree,atleast initially.Does this mean we cannot have open “dialogue” (I have a instinctive loathing of that word,but so be it) and perhaps not finally see the wisdom of the other’s ideas and the folly of our own? Ofcourse our ideas may ultimately prove incompatible (like mine and champs) and even the most like-minded individuals have bitter disagreements and wind up detesting each other. If you have figured out a way to avoid this, then I would welcome your insights. I am not a utopia-mongering pipe dreamer,I simply think there are many things in the world that could be greatly improved without paying too much of a price. Will this require bloodshed? I can’t see how it can possibly be avoided at this point.Is bloodshed neccesarily always “too much of a price”? Again few would argue it was for the american colonists etc….When pondering our current circumstances, I CANNOT answer that either way with any degree of confidence. Please don’t shoot the messanger,I can assure you violence of any kind is repellent to me. Yes,I know some of my “tirades” and things like my Tsunami comments may suggest otherwise. Well,so i have a morbid sense of humor,sue me :twisted:  for that, I feel i owe no apologies.

  Threats,to most humans are like beauty,wholly in the eye of the beholder. Before force is used one question must be asked;Is the threat I /we face serious enough to warrant the use of violence to counter the threat? As stated,I personally have mixed feelings in this regard. I DO however believe it is inevitable whether I or anyone else, likes it or not. Obviously,such a decision is not mine to make and for that,I am deeply grateful. I atleast LIKE to believe i am not like the wizard Saurman,in The Lord Of The Rings who covets the ring so he can order the world according to his will. Is that sort of desire within me and would I find the temptation to “wield the ring” overwhelming? I have strong reasons to believe that anyone who is claims to be certain that they could resist their “will to power” and dominion in situations where absolute power is at your fingertips simply does not know themselves very well at all. Most of us can therefore be thankful our power is limited. There are many people who have great power, ofcourse and we can find ourselves envying them. We would do well to consider whether we would want such responsibilty. Well at this juncture,I have little else to say(I am sure some of you atleast are really broken up about that). If anyone cares to have futher discussions,i’ll be around, off and on all night. I will say I do not wish to engage in flame wars. I realize I attacked Mr.champ rather harshly so I may be accused of hypocrisy(perhaps justly) but right or wrong, I just find the dogmatic christer thing to be no less repugnant than nazism (and I am a agnostic jew) and I sometimes do wish I could be more tolerant etc… of people like him but I fail at this everytime. I think I would be wholly tolerant if christians would simply CEASE their infernal meddling (on the other hand, the- eternal- hellfire- for- not- telling- daddy- your sorry- that -you- questioned -his -existence thing, is really where I throw down the gauntlet)and believe whatever they wish. I find hinduism as irrational as christianity, but you won’t hear a peep from me about the “evils” of hinduism because they are so few compared with dogmatic christianity of the evangelical kind.

 
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22 March 2005 13:50
 

He’s probably The Champ!

 
 
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22 March 2005 15:43
 

Gman and CA ...

You guys are great for a laugh, right out loud, I might add.  Sarcasm, she’s a beautiful thing ... smile

Susan

PS to Landulf ...  I’m curious/concerned now too as to why you’re so angry.  What’s up?

 
 
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22 March 2005 16:22
 

Its way too obvious…........

No real person could possibly have his head as firmly planted where “the-sun-don’t-shine” as The Champ…....clearly a fictional character.

Sam is obviously just testing us to see how long we will tolerate a pompus bible thumping fundie ignoramus like The Champ.

Come on Champ (aka Sam) fess up!

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22 March 2005 17:48
 

Landulf, I had to read it three times, but I finally understand most of what you said in your 3:42 AM “tirade”, as it has been referred to. Man, you are one passionate and very angry guy. I used to have a lot of anger over the same issues. I actually understand and agree with most of your reasoning. I have many of the same issues. Although, it’s been thirty years since I had anger any where near where you are. I arrived at where I am today with much of the same reasoning.

I read all of your reply’s today and if I do the math, you must have started typing about 1:00 AM this morning and continued to send replys all night and into this afternoon. You have to be speeding. No one could type as much as you did on just caffeine.

I am curious as to your age? My guess is that you are in your 20’s, unmarried and probably a tech geek and in college. Tell me how you got to where you are. Clearly you are very intelligent and articulate. I am interested how you arrived where you are today.

If you are going to be around for the “battle”, as you call it, you need to get off the speed. It will either kill you or F you up real bad. You won’t be any good to the cause if you’re dead or in jail.

Keep up the good work. I like your style. I think Tchamp likes you too. I know he’s going to pray for you. Phil in Murrieta.

 
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23 March 2005 15:40
 

I apologize for the delay in replies to everyone’s questions/comments.I just don’t have the time at the moment to provide the sort of answers/responses that I would like to.I would ask you all to kindly refrain from asking me any other questions or making any other comments that I feel I have an obligation (if only to myself)to respond to UNTIL I can address the ones already asked. If you insist on doing so,and never get a response from me,then please don’t accuse me of avoiding the question/comment.  I will try to address all of your questions/comments tommorow but i can’t promise anything.
              Sincerely,Landulf

 
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23 March 2005 15:56
 

I really felt compelled to respond briefly to your post. Please don’t take offense to this i am not implying anything, but your math is way,way off.I am actually a hunt and peck typist. I DO NOT do drugs of any kind and I am not even currently on any medication. I stopped ALL intake of caffeine months ago because it was giving me panic attacks and keeping me awake at night. I have never even tried “speed” (except if wish to call caffeine pills many years ago in high school a few times “speed”). The only mood-altering substance I have consumed in the last 12 years is the occasional drink. I just wanted to clear this up, you don’t have to believe this but if that’s the case, I really can’t help you there. Well,my girlfriend is about to behead me if I don’t get off the computer.I told her 5 minutes and one second over that limit and the axe is coming down!! Take care for now,ill try to be back on tommorow.

 
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24 March 2005 01:48
 

Since I have several hours before I need to get to work,I thought i’d reply to everyone’s comments/questions while I have a minute.The best way for me is in a linear fashion. The general consensus among most of you,if not all appears to be that I exhibit excessive anger,so I will deal with that first.

  Let it known from this point forward that I preface EVERYTHING I say with,“I could be wrong” I know NOTHING for certain,not even that I know nothing for certain! (if that makes any sense,but you get my meaning I hope). The hermetic “principle of polarity,is instructive here. All I have is extremely strong beliefs, extremely weak ones and others in between,there are no absolutes. With that firmly planted in mind, human emotions have their roots,my anger is no exception. Personal experience and/or most likely biology have led to my being more angry than the average bear. We could argue that their is free will involved. I have tried to be less angry and have failed everytime. I do believe if I really wanted to,I could become less angry,but I suppose I really don’t want to. Then we can conclude that I must get some satisfaction out of my anger and costs of retaining it outweigh the costs of dispelling/reducing it. I have reason to believe they do. I AM NOT angry 100% of the time nor even 50% of the time. I can easily switch it on/off at will, when I think it could be useful to myself and/or others, it’s in the on position and vice versa. I felt it could serve a purpose in this forum(I could be wrong). I think I made that purpose clear,if not I simply want to get people to consider that the happy-go -lucky approach may be permitting the destructive forces afoot in the modern world, a free reign.If you don’t give these “forces” SOMETHING,ANYTHING, to fear they will trample you and everything in their way, underfoot. I have already said I fully recognized the futility of this method,but in my estimation, the stakes have become to high not to try anyway.

    I will say no more at this juncture regarding my anger,but I feel I owe no apologies for it, a number of you may feel differently if so,you are welcome to disagree. I said I would answer and address everyone’s ?s and comments so Gman,your first. As for my point, I think I have now made it as clear as possible. I am quite prepared to sacrifice anything to change this world for the better,BUT that change better be worth it. What I would like to know is, whose joining me? I could sell all my posessions,give my money away, volunteer all my time and only a few would be slightly better off. I realize there are people who do just that (few and far between) and for want of a better term,let’s call them “saints”.(we might do well to consider their motivations and whether they still would do this if they got NOTHING psychological,God “brownie points”,or anything else. There is reason to atleast suspect, that ALL of our motivations(our meaning me too) are ultimately rooted in selfishness). I am not one, nor would I ever claim to be.  I don’t think i’m a devil either,like most people I think i’m somewhere inbetween. To illustrate,would I have gone to Iraq to fight?,not if I could help it. Would I have gone to Europe to fight the nazis?,in a heartbeat. You also asked me; “if I plan to contribute anything useful to this forum”? You are then implying that everything heretofore was useless. I can’t possibly answer that question because what you really mean is what you BELIEVE is useful. Until I know that, I can’t answer that particular question. With that said,i’ll move on to the next post,take care for now and no hard feelings I hope.

  Rasmussen, I THINK I just answered your question regarding my anger. You may feel my answers are incomplete,shallow,a cop-out etc…if so,feel free to disagree. As for your “concern” for whom? If you are concerned about me,I appreciate it but please,don’t be. If you are concerned about me doing something violent,I shot a mouse when I was about 11 and it deeply disturbed me for weeks. It still makes me sick to my stomach when I visualize today,so I try not to. But none of this proves anything so ofcourse,I can’t offer any further assurances. Take care, for now.

  Ok Champ your turn, First I feel I owe you an apology, I was quite harsh and you atleast don’t SEEM like a terrible person (who knows you could be a serial killer for the lord,murdering wiccans in Salem or something, just kidding but you really never know anyone when it comes to the abyss of the human mind,with it’s clamorous ministers of shawdows). IMO, you do have some glaring flaws however, well so do I. Perhaps we can simultaneously “remove the boards from each other eyes” WHILE working on removing the board from our own eyes,the boards might just come easier that way. Well, permit me to try to do a little board removal on you, and I grant you the same courtesy. First of all,i’ll whip out the ole’ “principle of polarity” idea again to illustrate my feelings about “the christian thing” Heat and cold ,although “opposites,” are really the same thing,the differences consisting merely of degrees.Look at your thermometer and tell me if you can discover where “heat” terminates and “cold” begins. The same goes for everything, atleast everything we know of. This includes christianity,I never said christianity was absolute evil,nothing is. I recognize the good things many of it’s followers are motivated to do, supposedly in JC’s name. Suppose you have a guy that feeds the poor,clothes the naked,etc….at the same time he rapes and murders young women. Would you say he should’nt be locked away for life (atleast) because of the all the otherwise good deeds he performs? This is basically how I feel about christianity. Here you have a belief system with many individuals,motivated by their belief(even if they merely are attempting to win “brownie points” with the big guy)who perform undoubtly wonderful deeds. At the same time, many of those same individuals fail to have any qualms when their god damns people (or even “permits” them to go) to the most horrid torture possible for all ETERNITY for simply questioning his existence? Like I said the other day, I don’t even think Hitler deserves ETERNAL TORMENT.  This sort of God makes hitler and stalin blush look like fuzzy baby bunnies!!! and you claim to love him with all your heart and soul?!?!I am really sorry but that just does’nt compute with me ,Champ. Not that I believe,that such a god or an eternal hell exists not in the least, but you do. Christians,again many of the same who perform good works are responsible for alot of rotten things right here on earth too. I think you know what they are so should I really spell them out? Again I would only have mild objections to christianity if christians would stop imposing their beliefs on others. It’s not even all christians I have a major problem with. Basically, it’s conservative catholics (the pope is one despite alot of nonsense spouted to the contrary) and many evangelicals and others.If these type of christians(i’ll call them farwellians) gained enough political power,“god only knows” what life would become for gays,women,secularists,“new agers” and just about everyone but the farwellians. They are already doing enough damage without america being an offical theocracy. Since you, I think you are too far gone in your faith I won’t suggest Thomas Frank’s book; “what’s the matter with Kansas.” Mr. Frank clearly illustrates how the predatory business elites shamelessly use working- class fundie christians to further their agendas. These people(the manipulated christians) are like the kid who lets an armed man into their locked school cause the guy promised them candy, to the detriment of everyone, including the kid. As for your comment that “anger is bad for your physical health”,I’m well aware of that. I have more to say regarding that but I think I should stop here. It seems some have expressed atleast subtle umbrage, regarding the length of my posts. This one has gone on long enough and I still have a few things to say to Ptripp. Take it easy,for now and like I said to Gman, no hard feelings i hope. BTW Ptripp if your reading this,I want to address your questions/comments in another post due to the biblical proportions of this one. So if you see this, I’ll be with you ASAP.

 
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Hey Ptripp,I can answer most of your questions but the answer to one may be leave something to be desired. I am 32 y/o and i’ve been out of college for over 10 years. I have a BS in marine science from UM and i’ve been in Florida for 13 years. I am anything but a “tech geek”. I don’t like to define myself (goth ,surfer,punk,hippie,left,right or any other silly labels).Politically speaking,I guess the closest thing you could get to a definition is Noam Chomsky’s, “Libretarian Socialist”. I must make it clear that I DO NOT idolize or fetishize the man. His critique of the problems of the world,contemporary society etc… I GENERALLY agree with. I simply find his alternatives to be EXTREMELY ambiguous. Chomsky uses the Spanish collectives of the 1930’s (pre-Franco,ofcourse) as something of an ideal and Orwell who observed them first hand had positive impressions as well. IMO, they seemed to be something between a rustic peasant’s life and a"mildly” industrialized society. The people seemed to have few options for education,poor libraries and a paucity of arts and culture.  They also had seemed to have little ability to travel,less than ideal medical care etc….This extreme level of simplicity may work for some or myself even for a limited time,but eventually I would wither from boredom.
   
    So like I said, I generally eschew most self-definitions I think to define is to limit. What would be my idea of an ideal world? I have serious doubts that an ideal world is possible in this life/planet and this is the only one we can be reasonably certain of. I am just convinced we could do light years better than we are(but I could be wrong). 

  Now the tricky question,“how did I get to where I am”? Jeez Ptripp how long do you want this post to be?!?!?!? I ‘ll try to be as succinct and simultaneously complete as possible. Like I said,I am anything but a tech geek. One of my greatest passions is anything having to do with nature and in my free time,that’s often where you’ll find me. I scuba,hike,whitewater,canoe and generally commune with the ineffable splendor of “Mother Earth”. I love to read a wide variety of books,mags,etc…I play guitar and trombone mostly these days for my own edification, I was in some bands a few years back. I don’t want go to much into hobbies,interests,lifestyles etc… but that’s some of the main ones. I am not married,never wish to be,zero kids don’t want em’. I have tried the long term relationship thing but I am too much of a “gypsy soul” for lack of a better term,for that. As a matter of fact, I just got out of an LTR (mutual decision) over a year ago. My ex-girlfriend lives with me because she currently goes to school and she is my best friend. I know I called her my girlfriend in my last post,but actually she is an ex. I was with her for 5 years and this is by far the longest relationship i’ve had and I never want another. The compromise,commitment,monogamy and all the other stuff that comes with LTR is just alien to my nature and not worth the price,IMO. If it works for others,  great but I spent my LTR time in “quiet desperation”.

  I am a small businessman and have been for 9 years. It has nothing to do with my degree and I don’t feel comfortable being too specific here about that (yes it’s legal). I am no millionaire,but I make enough to fulfill any expectations I might have. I choose this profession instead of working as a marine biologist,because I got sick of school(if you want to get anywhere in the hard sciences you need a doctorate ofcourse,I had three more years atleast). I pondered the prospect of working for someone else and it just did’nt sit well with me. In a nutshell,that is the story of my daily bread.

  I was born and raised in Pittsburgh,Pa as an only child. My parents divorced when I was 11 and my Mom lives in Florida too. The rest of my family lives up in Pittsburgh still and I see them as often as possible. I have a great,loving family and there are few significantly negative things I can say about my immediate family. I hated K-12th grade and have few positive memories there. I was in advanced placement from early on,but definitely was an “underachiever”. I don’t ever remember studying for anything,but somehow I got my H.S. Diploma. Because of my less- than -stellar academic performance, I attended community college for my AA and transferred to UM for my BS. I loved my college experience and have terrific memories of it. I did well enough to perhaps go on to any grad school,but I just felt I had proved enough to myself and any more would be redundant. My college experience and my K-12th have a worldwide gulf between them. I was always a loner,misfit etc…in elementary/highschool. As a result,I endured more than my fair share of bullying. This surely has alot to do with my propensity for anger. It also has much to do with my lack of patience with bullies of any kind. These days, I resist as much as possible being anyone’s victim. This is another reason (but hardly the only one ) that I am self-employed and reject long-term romantic entanglements. Despite my anger, I would say i’m a fairly happy guy in a terribly unhappy world. I am also a “guilt-monger” and often feel guilty about the smallest things. Yes I have my sorrows and emotional issues,I find few these days if any, that have none and a large % have a whole helluva lot more.

  I travel alot, but I can never travel too much and this is where most of my money goes. I have been to every part of world and many places several times over. Again, I spend much of my travels in nature-related activities, but try to keep my horizons broad and do other things such as visit the historical sites,get aquainted with the local cultures,museums, etc…Well my friend,I really should get some work done and I hope I was amply succinct and complete. If you have any other questions,feel free so long as you understand there somethings,for the sake of safety/privacy that I won’t answer. I am sure you have a fairly good idea what these are,if not I ‘ll let you know what’s off limits. If you care to share some things about yourself, I ‘d be interested to know,but that decision,ofcourse is entirely your own. I may be back tonight,but this internet thing gets real old,real quick. I heard Sam’s talk on CSPAN this past Sunday and came to his web site Monday. Before that ,I have not used the computer(other than for business and to check/respond to Email for several months). It was a novelty for many years and i’ve done my fair share of time as a “web junkie”. The novelty wore off about 5-6 years ago for me. Like I said, I may be back tonight but it’s just as likely that i’ll cool it for a few days.
     
            Take Care,for now Ptripp
                  Landulf

 
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24 March 2005 05:31
 

Hi Landulf. Thanks for the informative reply. I stand corrected about the speed inference and tech geek classification. In fact, I apologize for that.

I am 50, divorced and live with my signifcant other. I have 2 children. A 15 year old son from my marriage and a 3 year old daughter with my significant other.

We have a lot in common. I am also a nature lover and have travelled extensively. 5 trips mostly to Western Europe, Egypt, Turkey and Greece for a combined time of about 10 months. One trip was for 6 months. Our views on religion are very similar and I also abhor hunting/killing for pleasure.

I can’t write much right now because I am heading to Mammoth to go skiing in a few hours. You are on the right coast, I am on the left coast. We stil have great skiing.

I understand your anger regarding the illogic and irrationality of organized religions. It is almost painful to consider the waste of energy and money that goes toward basically a belief in Santa Claus. I have had much of the same anger in the past. Perhaps you will mellow with age. I know that I have.

You are clearly a very complex individual and I admire your world view. I am softer these days because I finally figured out that no amount of logic or rational argument will ever persuade religious people to see things any other way. In fact, their minds are not capable of seeing things any other way. You and I and many of the readers of this forum are hard wired completly different.

Have you ever know a shizophrenic? Try to tell them that the voices they hear are not real. No amount of rational discourse will convince them other wise. The very same problem occurs with religious people. They suffer from a different form of insanity. That is my opinion anyway and it helps me to understand.

Take care. I’m off to the slopes. Phil in Murrieta

 
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28 March 2005 13:01
 

There is no need to apologize, I often attempt to size up individuals I know little about and my impressions often wrong. Therefore,I try not to do it but I’m pretty sure it will happen again. I hoped you enjoyed skiing in mammoth.Personally,i’m not much of a ski buff although I have done it and enjoyed it. I just have somewhat of an aversion to cold and snow,hence one of the reasons I live in florida!

As a matter of fact,I have known a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. A friend of mine in high school had a brother who was one. We used to hang out at his small apartment (it was the only place we could drink without hassle!). He had auditory hallucinations and many delusions regarding local female newscasters(he believed they were in love with him) and he attempted to contact them on several occasions,even showing up at local tv stations!! Basically,like most of the mentally ill the guy was harmless. I often hear Bill Maher,who I have a degree of respect for , claim that the religious have a neurological disorder.


  I do believe there is a neurobiological componant,but we live in a society that enables many negative propensities to flourish while hindering some more positive ones. Since perhaps non-believers may not possess this neurobiological componant(if there in fact is one) we are the “outcasts” and life is arguably more difficult in some respects for non-believers in this society. I often find myself alone during the xmas season because on principle, I refuse to participate in the “festivities” in any fashion. I have many friends and family members who are non-believers who still insist on celebrating this overtly xtian holiday. Please don’t be offended if you do,I just personally feel i’m not being true to myself if I partake in the “yuletime cheer”. If others feel differently, I don’t hold against them. It’s just that I loathe christianity (although I find some of the teachings of christ,whether he existed in reality or not, to be the ideal of human conduct) so much that I refuse to support it, however indirectly, in any manner. Well,I don’t have much else to say at this time,just wanted to reply to your last post. Take care for now,Landulf

 
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01 April 2005 17:48
 

For as long as I can remember I have been a very angry person, always beaten up by bully’s for most of my childhood. Since then I developed an inner rage that when provoked it came and showed its ugly head causing me all kinds of trouble. Trouble with work, relationships, family, the list goes on. As time went by and I got older I realized that I had to fix the problem in order to succeed in life, however the only way I knew of was with the help of phsyc’s etc. At the time I was married with my 3rd wife, and things were going down hill after a layoff from a big company. Finances were horrible just gave my second car back to the bank, filed BR you know the deal. Oppurtunity of a life time comes around Operation Enduring Freedom/Operation Iraqi Freedom, and I went, I went to defend my country and use take advantage of the fact that I would be getting paid regularily for at least a year to provide for my family. 2 months into the war my wife decides she can’t take it anymore and kicks me out. Well now comes even more headaches. Time goes by, things slow down for my unit, and we are released from active duty. While I stayed at Ft. Stewart I moved to Jax, Fl. met and made a few new friends and moved to FL. Now comes the best part. Months of living at Ft Stewart for medical issues, allowed me to meet a great person who lived in FL. and so, I told her my lifes issues, and she turned out to be a devowed Christian, akward at first for me, but I knew about God already, I am a Catholic, so I continued my relationship with her. As time went by I felt the burning in my heart to give myself to God and take him into my heart. Upon that immediate moment I felt a rise in my chest like a huge weight had lifted off of me and I cried, I cried with Joy and happiness because I knew at that moment he was there for me and had been there for me all along. Well we have been together now for almost 2 years. We go to church every week, sometimes 2 times a week, we pray, we pray for as many people as we can, and I try my absolute best to follow his commands. The best part is that the Lord Jesus knows we are not going to be able to follow them, so he allows us to ask for forgiveness, and he forgives no questions asked. I think the most important part is to have a relationship with him like you would anyone else. Back to my past temper issues, I can honestly say that in the past 1 1/2 my personality has changed, I am a lot kinder person, my heart has softened to be more compasionate to others. Alot of the road rage I had has disappated, and I am able to reason a lot better than ever. My parents even noticed a huge difference with me. I wanted to also let you know that I prayed for everyone that has made an entry into this posting. Hate the Sin not the person. With all I have said, one point comes out of it. Without believing in God and Jesus Christ and without doing my best to follow his wishes none of what has happened to me in the past 2 years would have happened.

Now an answer to some who might ask why I would choose to write to this forum, or ask have I read his book, or why am I interested in Sams Book. Well a very simple answer, in order to combat your enemy you must know him very well, and I feel the more I know about Sams Point the more armour I will have in order to fight against the prince of darkness and his evil ploys.

Jesus has made me happy inside, and I feel the joy in my heart that he promised me.

One question for all of you? who do you want on your side? God Creator of heavan and earth? or, his fallen angel who continues to try to take over, but knows he cannot, and uses us humans against each other. I know my choice.

Sincerely,
TC’s Friend

 
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01 April 2005 20:32
 

Dear TC’s Friend….

  I am happy to hear you forgave yourself and got rid of your anger issues finally.  I am happy to hear it was the love of a woman that helped you get over it.  I do not mind if you give credit to Jesus for this.

  However, I suspect from the tone of your post your anger really isnt gone, its just seeking another target, and your wholehearted embrace of Christianity has now allowed you to justify your anger by persuing “devils” and “evil”.

  I am no Christian, of course, but I abhor violence.  I have had my own inner anger issues, and deal with them a bit differently, but still spiritually.
Far from reassuring me you have found love, your post sounds to me more like you found a new “safe” target for your hate.

  Since now that target seems to be me, I am not so sure I am happy with your final resolution.

 
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01 April 2005 21:18
 

Naaaah…..that’s just another sheep bleating in the distance.

 
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