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26 March 2009 12:14
 

Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade . . . Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers and civilians.

(Andrew):  No, Hillary. It’s our country’s insane, ineffective 100-year old war on drugs which has driven up the price, fueled the trade and created narco-terrorists.
Decriminalize drugs and take the profit away…that’s the answer.

 
 
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26 March 2009 15:02
 
Andrew - 26 March 2009 04:14 PM

(Andrew):
Decriminalize drugs and take the profit away…that’s the answer.

Agreed

 
 
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26 March 2009 17:51
 

Agreed squared.

 
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26 March 2009 19:11
 

Hillary blows it


That’s a mental image I could have lived without.

 
 
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27 March 2009 00:23
 

Andrew’s common sense Decriminalization Proclamation:

Decriminalize drugs and take the profit away…that’s the answer.

BEAM:

Agreed.

PIERO:

Agreed squared.

TEUCHTER:

Agreed to the 4th power.

II:
Ditto.  Squared, triangulated and bent over a chair.  cheese

Once decriminalized the profit factor wouldn’t go completely away. Come to think of it, decriminalization could be a selling point for the free market capitalist (providing desired consumer product for a price) and the government (popular product to tax) alike.

Think of the jobs it would create!
Jobs that don’t inspire images of Hillary blowing .  cool smile

 
 
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27 March 2009 03:59
 

I’m not surprised Hillary would take such a public stance. If any prominent Democrat came out for decriminalization, the culture warriors in the GOP would smell blood. I suspect the issue will go nowhere until a Republican moderate publicly endorses it.

 
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27 March 2009 06:29
 

Totally agreed. Been a civil libertarian all of my adult life.

 
 
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27 March 2009 08:11
 
Andrew - 26 March 2009 04:14 PM

Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade . . . Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers and civilians.

(Andrew):  No, Hillary. It’s our country’s insane, ineffective 100-year old war on drugs which has driven up the price, fueled the trade and created narco-terrorists.
Decriminalize drugs and take the profit away…that’s the answer.

Something we do agree on!

 
 
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28 March 2009 07:27
 

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/28/fundraising-jump-for-marijuana-group-after-obama-snub/#more-45599

Marijuana backers aren’t laughing about President Obama’s flippant dismissal of a pot-related question during Thursday’s online town hall meeting — and the country’s leading marijuana advocacy group, The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, has seen its donations quadruple over the last 24 hours.

Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of NORML, told CNN “our donation boxes started to flood” after Obama laughed off a Web question about whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation. St. Pierre said traffic to the group’s Web site has “increased precipitously” since Thursday.

“About half of the donation comments have a reference to Mr. Obama’s comments,” St. Pierre said. “As far as I’m concerned, he could show up every single day and rag on marijuana.”

 
 
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28 March 2009 16:34
 

Legalise it, regulate it and tax it!

I never really agreed with the idea that illegal drugs should be legalised but I guess people are going to take them anyway so why not make it both safer and easier.

Sounds like an instant revenue winner for the Govt.

Dom

 
 
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28 March 2009 19:15
 
The anti-theist - 28 March 2009 08:34 PM

I never really agreed with the idea that illegal drugs should be legalised

Why?

 
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teuchter - 28 March 2009 11:24 PM

The only reservation I have about legalizing drugs is PCP, which has really twisted people up, and doesn’t seem like a good high at all.

What’s PCP? (I’m sorry for asking so many questions, but I’m genuinely confused on the issue of legalising hard drugs (and not being a native English speaker doesn’t help…), so I’d like to get some feedback from other forum members.)

 
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28 March 2009 20:28
 

Thank you, Teuchter. What I don’t get is why would anyone take PCP. It sounds like hell.

 
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28 March 2009 22:54
 
Piero - 28 March 2009 11:15 PM
The anti-theist - 28 March 2009 08:34 PM

I never really agreed with the idea that illegal drugs should be legalised

Why?

That’s a difficult question but the answer is simply that I was raised to believe that drugs are bad and that the govt knows best.

I have since changed my mind on many things I was brought up to believe but the “drugs”  idea seems to get stuck. I suppose I haven’t really heard the opposing facts.

Dom

 
 
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29 March 2009 05:47
 
The anti-theist - 29 March 2009 02:54 AM

I suppose I haven’t really heard the opposing facts.

The opposing argument is about which methods prevent or alleviate the most harm. Not only does prohibition fail to stop the spread of drugs, it increases the harm by discouraging addicts from seeking help and by giving organized crime a lucrative market. One wouldn’t just legalize or decriminalize drugs and leave it at that. One would do this as part of a strategy of treating drugs as a public health issue and not a law enforcement issue.

 
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Carstonio - 29 March 2009 09:47 AM

One would do this as part of a strategy of treating drugs as a public health issue and not a law enforcement issue.

That sounds right, in my opinion, although it would be hideously difficult to implement. On the other hand, the money saved on enforcement and the mney raised through taxation should be enough to finance even the most ambitious plans.

 
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