Pro-life Atheists

 
 
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Nulono
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08 October 2008 15:52
 

I just wanted you all to know that we exist. It was terribly offended by being accused of being religious.

http://www.godlessprolifers.org/
http://www.l4l.org/

 
 
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Bongobongo Smith
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09 October 2008 08:16
 

OK. Welcome!

Now this “Pro-life Atheists”-thing puzzles me;
is there aa “Anti-life Atheist” group out there
that you oppose to?


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Beam
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09 October 2008 10:40
 

If my daughter gets raped, do you believe the government should make it illegal for her to obtain an abortion? Do you think your morality trumps her personal decision?

 
 
 
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Nulono
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09 October 2008 10:59
 

Killing another person is not a personal decision.

 
 
 
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Beam
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09 October 2008 11:35
 

You consider a morula a person. I do not. You think that your moral judgment trumps a woman who must make such a decision for herself.

 
 
 
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Nulono
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09 October 2008 12:08
 

Yes and yes. Deciding whether or not someone else shall live is called homicide.

 
 
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LogicAndReason
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09 October 2008 12:40
 
Nulono - 09 October 2008 04:08 PM

Yes and yes. Deciding whether or not someone else shall live is called homicide.

Deciding when a person is a “someone” is another.

Unless you are a female and faced wit this decision, cease and desist with your vapid bleats. 

By the way, welcome to the discussion.

 
 
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Nulono
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09 October 2008 12:43
 

Not a very warm welcome, with your ad hominem circumstantial.

I wasn’t looking to get into a debate; I just wanted Sam to know that I:

a) am against abortion
b) am against embryonic stem cell research
c) am an atheist
d) exist
e) am incredibly offended by his accusations.
f) all of the above

...

On a lighter note, does anyone get my username?

[ Edited: 09 October 2008 12:49 by Nulono]
 
 
 
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Nulono
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09 October 2008 13:38
 

It is nothing of the sort.

 
 
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LogicAndReason
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09 October 2008 13:51
 
Nulono - 09 October 2008 04:43 PM

Not a very warm welcome, with your ad hominem circumstantial.

I wasn’t looking to get into a debate; I just wanted Sam to know that I:

a) am against abortion
b) am against embryonic stem cell research
c) am an atheist
d) exist
e) am incredibly offended by his accusations.
f) all of the above

Nulono, you lack a position that might chance Harris’ notice.

First, being atheist and against abortion are not mutually exclusive.

Next, being atheist and opposing stem-cell research are not mutually exclusive.

By trying to force those concepts as opposites, you assume to define all of them by your understanding.

Here is some help, you might posit that abortion is morally wrong based on….. You haven’t stated a position one way or another.  I still ask, unless this is a decision that directly affects you, why should anyone value your opinion?  You are only discussing the color of paint on your neighbor’s house without helping to put it there, pay for it, or live with it.

This may help you to understand why Harris is published and you are on his website.  This is not to say I agree with all of his writing either…but stating that I think him wrong says nothing.

 
 
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eudemonia
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09 October 2008 14:33
 

I am a pro abortion, culture of death, Buddhist murdering Pantheist and totally offended that Sam Harris did not address people like me in his book.

So there.

You betcha. grin

 
 
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Bongobongo Smith
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09 October 2008 14:56
 
bongobongo - 09 October 2008 12:16 PM

OK. Welcome!

Now this “Pro-life Atheists”-thing puzzles me;
is there an “Anti-life Atheist” group out there
that you oppose to?


.

...sorry; didn’t catch you answer to that one.

 
 
 
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Beam
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09 October 2008 15:33
 
Nulono - 09 October 2008 04:43 PM

I wasn’t looking to get into a debate; I just wanted Sam to know that I:

I am sorry about your existential angst. Are you really narcissistic enough to believe that Mr. Harris is going to read through this forum and be impressed by your existence and your views?

 
 
 
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Nulono
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09 October 2008 17:04
 

I really don’t care. I just wanted to say something. Harris claims that only the religious are against stem cell research.

Women’s sufferage does not affect me, yet I still support it.

 
 
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LogicAndReason
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10 October 2008 04:33
 

I believe he states that the religious right leads the charge against stem cell research.  Why do you hold such Luddite opinions?

 
 
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Nulono
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10 October 2008 05:45
 

I oppose scientific progress that comes at the cost of killing people.