Episode 357

America & World Order

A Conversation with Bret Stephens

March 4, 2024

Sam Harris speaks with Bret Stephens about America’s place in the world. They discuss the waning Pax Americana, American isolationism, Republican fondness for Putin, Tucker Carlson, why America should support Ukraine, the significance of Alexei Navalny, what it would mean to properly hold Putin responsible for his death, nuclear blackmail, valid criticisms of Israel, the war in Gaza, Palestinian public opinion, the need for total military defeat, a two-state solution, the isolation of Israel at the UN and the International Criminal Court of Justice, waning support for the war in the Biden Administration, Hezbollah and war with Iran, Israeli politics and the settlements in the West Bank, charges of “settler colonialism,” antisemitism as a series of double standards, the prospect of a Trump victory in 2024, Biden’s age problem, the crisis at the southern border, U.S. immigration policy, and other topics.

Bret Stephens is an opinion columnist with The New York Times and editor-in-chief of Sapir, a new Jewish quarterly. He has previously served as editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post and as foreign affairs columnist for The Wall Street Journal, for which he won the 2013 Pulitzer Prize for commentary. Stephens was raised in Mexico City and studied political philosophy at the University of Chicago and comparative politics at the London School of Economics. In 2022 he was banned for life by the government of Russia from ever visiting that country.

Website: https://www.nytimes.com/column/bret-stephens


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